You've heard of the great Sit-Ins of the Civil Rights Era ... Anybody up for a Kneel-In?
My family was greatly disturbed on our recent vacation to Idaho. After driving two hours out of the mountains to attend Holy Mass, the parish priest denied all of us, my children and my in-laws, Holy Communion because we knelt to receive the Eucharist.
It was so sad to see my little children, kneeling reverently to receive the Eucharist, and then to see the priest wagging his finger at them. I thank God I went to the Sacrament of Confession right before Holy Mass, or I'm not sure what I would have done in response to the priest's brazenness.
As a result of this experience, I am helping to create the Reverence Foundation.
As you might expect, I spoke to the priest after Mass to let him know about his violation of the Church's law. He stonewalled me. He just kept saying, "I'm very aware of Canon Law."
I emailed the priest afterwards, and he failed to reply. This began a series of emails with the Bishop of Boise, Idaho.
You can read all the emails to and from the priest who denied us Holy Communion for kneeling, as well as his bishop.
Also, feel free to copy and paste these emails and use them if you are denied your right to receive the Eucharist kneeling.
And also prayerfully consider whether it might be time for a reverent, respectful kneel-in to protect our Catholic civil rights!
EWTN Radio Interview About Being Denied Holy Communion for Kneeling
Father 's Homily Before He Denied Us Holy Communion for Kneeling
My Email to the Priest, After Being Denied Holy Communion for Kneeling: Full Statement from the USCCB on "The Reception of Holy Communion at Mass"
Dear Father [Name Redacted],
Good morning! We met before and after Mass at St. Charles Borromeo last Sunday. As you probably remember, you denied me and my family Holy Communion while we were kneeling.
Here is the full statement from the USCCB on "The Reception of Holy Communion at Mass," if you like, but I have reproduced the pertinent parts below, which reference the GIRM, Canon Law, and Redemptionis Sacramentum, the instruction issued by the Vatican's Congregation for Divine Worship.
The General Instruction asks each country's Conference of Bishops to determine the posture to be used for the reception of Communion and the act of reverence to be made by each person as he or she receives Communion. In the United States, the body of Bishops has determined that "[t]he norm... is that Holy Communion is to be received standing, unless an individual member of the faithful wishes to receive Communion while kneeling" and that a bow is the act of reverence made by those receiving (GIRM no. 160). This norm is supported by an Instruction by the Holy See regarding the Eucharist: "In distributing Holy Communion it is to be remembered that 'sacred ministers may not deny the sacraments to those who seek them in a reasonable manner, are rightly disposed, and are not prohibited by law from receiving them' (Code of Canon Law, can. 843 § 1; cf. can. 915). Hence any baptized Catholic who is not prevented by law must be admitted to Holy Communion. Therefore, it is not licit to deny Holy Communion to any of Christ's faithful solely on the grounds, for example, that the person wishes to receive the Eucharist kneeling or standing" (Redemptionis Sacramentum, no. 91).
As you see, there is no discretion given to either the bishop, the priest, or extraordinary minister to abrogate these rules. Indults may be granted by the local ordinary to add (reasonable) options, but not take away.
I would be very interested in reading any documentation you have to support the legality of denying Holy Communion for kneeling.
Would you now be willing to allow us to receive the Eucharist while kneeling next Sunday?
Thanks!
ICtM&J,
Scott Smith
My Email to the Bishop of Boise, Idaho After Being Denied Holy Communion for Kneeling
Most Reverend [Name Redacted],Happy Feast of the Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary!On a sad note, my family, my young children, and my in-laws were recently denied Holy Communion in your diocese because we were kneeling. This occurred at St. Charles Borromeo in Hailey on Sunday, August 20th. Fr. [Name Redacted] personally denied us Holy Communion, until and unless we stood up. I had an amicable discussion without resolution with Fr. [Name Redacted] after Mass and followed up with the email below, in which I provided the relevant laws and norms from the USCCB, Canon Law, and the GIRM. As I'm sure you're aware, it is a violation of Church law to deny Holy Communion solely on the basis that a person is kneeling.This has caused my family a pain that has not gone away. What's more, Fr. [Name Redacted] seemed to indicate, though I could be mistaken, that this denial of Holy Communion was done on your authority.I hope that I have maintained a charitable tone in all this, but my family was all very disturbed. Fr. [Name Redacted] was even preaching on inclusivity during this particular Mass, but his actions were a "clanging gong" of exclusivity. Not only is my family disturbed by this, I am also worried about Fr. [Name Redacted] and those whom he shepherds.I had hoped that a discussion with Fr. [Name Redacted] would emend this problem, but he has not responded to my email after several weeks. As Matthew 18:17 instructs us, "If he refuses to listen, tell it to the Church." This is why I am writing to you today--also for today's Marian feast in hopes of her intercession, who especially teaches us to kneel before the Word made flesh.Would you please instruct Fr. [Name Redacted]--or whatever action you believe is best to resolve this problem--that Church law prohibits the denial of Holy Communion in this situation? And that demonstrating reverence before the Holy Eucharist, especially in these years of Eucharistic renewal, is to be encouraged?With deepest gratitude for your help --In Christ through Mary and Joseph,Scott Smith
1st Reply from Bishop of Boise After Being Denied Holy Communion for Kneeling
Dear Scott,Peace be with you.Your message has been received and it will be reviewed with both the Bishop and the Vicar General for priests, Fr. [Name Redacted].Sincerely in Christ,Executive Assistant toBishop and Vicar General
2nd Reply from Bishop of Boise After Being Denied Holy Communion for Kneeling
September 13, 2023Dear Scott,Thank you for taking the time to write.I was confused about your email when you said you and your family did not receive because you were kneeling, but it seems you did receive when [Name Redacted] asked you to stand. As our Church teaches when receiving communion, we are encouraged to have unity in our posture and gestures. Perhaps in Louisiana the general posture when receiving is kneeling, but that is not the case in the Diocese of Boise.Blessings to you and your family –As I remain sincerely yours in Christ,Bishop [Name Redacted]Bishop of the Diocese of Boise
My Reply to the Bishop's Response to the Denial of Holy Communion for Kneeling
Good morning, Bishop [Name Redacted]!I was thinking about you and praying for you this morning during Prime prayers. There was a line from the second reading from (Bishop) St. Augustine for the feast of (Bishop) St. Januarius: "To be honest with you, my obligations involve me in so much turmoil that I feel as though I were tossed by storms on a great ocean. When I remember by whose blood I have been redeemed, this thought brings me peace, as though I were entering the safety of a harbor ..." So, prayers for a safe harbor!Thank you for your response to my email.You said, "As our Church teaches when receiving communion, we are encouraged to have unity in our posture and gestures." The Church's unity comes from its universality, its universal law, history, origin -- in a word, its Catholicity. Protestants have local uniformity in gestures, etc.; the *Catholic* Church provides a far greater unity.Speaking of the universal law of the Church, the GIRM (no. 160) and Canon Law (Code of Canon Law, can. 843 § 1; cf. can. 915) state that the conference of bishops decides the norms for postures while receiving Holy Communion. Accordingly, the USCCB states, as I provided to Fr. [Name Redacted] (in full below), "Therefore, it is not licit to deny Holy Communion to any of Christ's faithful solely on the grounds, for example, that the person wishes to receive the Eucharist kneeling or standing (Redemptionis Sacramentum, no. 91)."Can you please provide me with a legal basis for this violation of Canon Law and the norms established by the USCCB? Were you granted an indult or dispensation from this norm? If so, I would just plead that properly disposed communicants be allowed to show reverence before the Eucharist by kneeling to receive Holy Communion.Not following the norms established by the USCCB creates disunity, not unity. Whether we're from Louisiana or Idaho, "Jews or Greeks, slaves or free" (1 Cor 12:13) ..."I appeal to you, [Your Excellency], by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of [us] agree and that there be no dissensions among [us], but that [we] be united in the same mind and the same judgment. For it has been reported to me by Chloe’s people that there is quarreling among you, my brethren. What I mean is that each one of you says, 'I belong to Paul,' or 'I belong to Apollos,' or 'I belong to Cephas,' [or 'I belong to Bishop Peter' or 'I belong to Louisiana'] or 'I belong to Christ.' Is Christ divided?" (1 Cor 1:12)Thank you, Your Excellency, for your time and blessing!ICtM&J,Scott Smith
Conclusions: Being Denied the Eucharist While Kneeling
The Language of the Body is the Greatest Catechism of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.
Why, Biblically, Do We Kneel to Receive Holy Communion?
- California
- Diocese of Orange
- St. Mary's by the Sea (Huntington Beach, CA) >> According to the L.A. Times newspaper, "Kneeling 'is clearly rebellion, grave disobedience and mortal sin,' Father Martin Tran, pastor at St. Mary’s by the Sea, told his flock in a recent church bulletin. The Diocese of Orange backs Tran’s anti-kneeling edict."
- I have contacted this parish on 10/5/2023 to confirm whether this is still the case or if the violation of Church law has been corrected.
- UPDATE: The parish priest responded on 10/6/2023 that neither he, who has been pastor there over seven years, nor his predecessor pastor would deny or have denied Holy Communion on the basis of kneeling.
- Diocese of San Bernardino
- St. Kateri Tekakwitha Catholic Community (Beaumont and Banning, CA) >> According to LifeSiteNews, "The bulletin notes that the parish 'highly discouraged the receiving of [C]ommunion while kneeling down' due to unspecified 'incidents that happened in the past caused by people kneeling down when receiving [C]ommunion.'" And further, "You will also be legally responsible for any harm that your action may cause to the ministers or the people around you when taking [C]ommunion kneeling down."
- Idaho
- Diocese of Boise, Bishop Peter Christensen >> according to a regular parishioner in the Diocese, not only is kneeling to receive the Eucharist prohibited (illegally), but "... per Bishop Peter of the Diocese of Boise: parish pastors are prohibited from even installing kneelers for Holy Communion because it might indicate a preferred posture for reception."
- St. Charles Borromeo Parish, Hailey, Idaho >> you will be forced to stand to receive the Eucharist
- Michigan
- Unknown Diocese >> denial of kneelers for the elderly to exercise their right to receive kneeling
- Texas
- Archdiocese of San Antonio
- St. Francis of Assisi Parish >> I have contacted this parish on 10/5/2023 to confirm whether this is still the case or if the violation of Church law has been corrected.
Example Email to Send to Catholic Parish to Ask Whether Kneeling to Receive Holy Communion is Prohibited
Good morning/afternoon!I have received a report that your parish is or was prohibiting parishioners and communicants from kneeling to receive Holy Communion -- is this true? I am curating a list of U.S. dioceses and parishes that are actively violating Church law by prohibiting kneeling to receive Holy Communion. Has this situation been corrected or is Holy Communion still being denied in your parish to those who choose to kneel?Thanks!In Christ,Scott Smith
27 Comments
Excellent post and thank you for sharing. It will encourage us when we face the same issue. Unfortunately, in a few places, the name of the priest was not redacted. Are you able to fix that? God bless you and your family!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the tip! Will do
DeleteBeautifully defended! We are in a diocese in Michigan. Technically, we can kneel. There is a twisted Pharisaical response though to kneeling. A kneeler was placed for those who wished to kneel and receive on the tongue, until someone from the diocese spotted it. On our part, there was no onus placed on those who chose to stand nor did it provide an obstacle. However, the bishop called and it had to be removed. This objectively discriminated against our elderly and infirm who need the support. When our pastor spoke with the bishop, he responded that we had the right to kneel but no right to a kneeler. Such cruelty from a shepherd! Subjectively his order sends a message at odds with the bishops' much touted campaign for Eucharistic Renewal. In my mind, To deny traditional reverence while bemoaning lack of belief in the Real Presence is either bad formation or deliberate. Yes to Kneel-Ins.
ReplyDeleteThanks! I'll add this to the list. Maybe we can actually use a little "synodality" to help the cause of reverence :)
DeleteWould you mind saying which diocese (and parish) in Michigan? Feel free to email me (thescottsmithblog@gmail.com), if you would prefer to do this privately
DeleteI have had this same experience with St. Francis of Assisi in the Archdiocese of San Antonio.
ReplyDeleteThank you! I will add it these to the list. How recently did you experience this?
DeleteMy husband and son we also told to stand up by this priest at Our Lady of the Snows in Sun Valley. Boise Diocese is a dumpster fire! St John's Cathedral, the seat of our Bishop, went from thriving to dying over night last winter, due to reforms by the Bishop.
ReplyDeleteTrue statement about Boise. For 2 glorious years, it was standing room only. 9 -11 Altar Servers. Superb choir. Music that lifted the heart and mind to God above (not sing-long tunes). Holy men of God at the Altar, and beautiful reverence from the pews (young & old, and the crowd of devoted Catholics without a pew kneeling on marble tiles).
DeleteThe donation money was flowing in, but that's not the way it is now (rightfully so). Summary- Liberals can't handle the beauty of Catholicism so the multitude gets tossed out.
Thanks for letting people know about the situation there in Boise! Do you think a "kneel-in" would help? Any other ideas? It's time for Catholics to organize and push back
DeleteCatholics in the Diocese are very reluctant to push back for fear of retaliation and persecution. He has already made so many suffer. He refuses to listen, meet, or talk. I’m shocked he responded to your letter. You got more of a response from him than most of us trying to bring issues to his attn. All he does is gas-light his flock.
ReplyDeleteThe diocese of Boise has an openly gay music director at one church, woke school teachers and curriculum in many of our diocesan schools, modernist liturgies at most Masses, and cassocks, Latin, and the confiteor are banned at Bishop’s Cathedral. Every time we try to talk to the diocese about a concern, we’re told that we are “ideologues.” Our kids have been through hell because of this Bishop and what he’s allowed to happen at the Catholic schools. We’re exhausted. He’s very insulated and admits that he doesn’t pay attn to any news. I think he lives in a bubble. It’s important to note that he is a closet Charismatic so this probably influences his preference for a more modern liturgy.
DeleteWow! Boise appears ripe for more direct action
DeleteBishop Steven Biegler of Cheyenne, WY ordered a priest at St. Barbara's in Powell to remove a kneeler. The priest complied
ReplyDeleteThe diocese where I grew up (Great Falls Billings Montana) has recently prohibited kneelers for communion and I believe ad orientem Masses.
ReplyDeleteIn RI the Dominican priests at St Pius V church , give communion to kneelers at the rail before the altar . Many receive communion on the tongue aswell
ReplyDeleteWow 😢💔this goes deeper than I thought. These poor people😩what recourse do they have than to make their outcry be heard elsewhere. How can they teach their children when there is confusion and conflict coming from inside the church.
ReplyDeleteLord help us all and hear our cry for justice. All glory to God!
Also , one would think , in the year of the Eucharistic revival all hierarchy in the church would encourage all reverence showed in receiving our King and Savior in the Eucharist.
ReplyDeleteLet us start showing we believe in the Real Presence by our posturing when we receive. What greater evangelism
do we have that to show our reverence to our Lord!
Amen.
DeleteThank you for your blog, Scott, sad to hear your experience and we need to know what is happening.
ReplyDeleteI have observed people kneeling to receive at the three NO masses I attend. I receive on the tongue as do many people. At least in this area there is no prom. The churches are orthodox in teaching and reverent in liturgy.
As an evangelical spirit filled Catholic convert, I hope we embrace the Charismatic life giving Holy Spirit as well. We are praying for God to continue to lead the Church in Truth. Praying for Bishop Peter and for anonymous 🙏✝️
I am concerned that this issue has been brought to divide and confuse the faithful. The churches in Idaho have permission to give communion on the hand or on the tongue. The preferred position is standing. The clergy do not have permissions to deny communion, he may have asked you to stand and then you refused. I pray that we can resolve this without allowing the enemy to divide us over receiving the Body of Jesus.
DeleteBless you Jane from Coeur d'Alene! That the faithful should receive according to their conscience and canon law is the only defensible position. I am wistful at so many passing by the Sacred Cup containing the Precious Blood without so much as a nod should they choose not to receive under both kinds.
ReplyDeleteMay we behold what we are and become what we receive.
This:
ReplyDeleteDiocese of Boise, Bishop Peter Christensen >> according to a regular parishioner in the Diocese... kneeling to receive the Eucharist prohibited."
is false.
Many faithful receive kneeling, as I personally have observed this many many times. Kneelers are prohibited for the purpose of receiving communion.
With the Eucharistic revival and the effort and endorsement that most US bishops are giving it, hard to see why there would be those that choose this hill to die on. We all know where priests and religious have been coming from in the last 2 decades and it isn't the families that skip Mass on vacation. If the bishops want to hand off a vibrant Church to their successors, there are powerfully thirsty families that are happy to oblige. Their children won't be swayed by sing-a-longs, Masses mailed in by the clergy and youth group activities dominated by scavenger hunts. They crave what they can't find elsewhere and that is the transcendent and the sacred. Choosing what the world offers over the banal is a no brainer. Bishops who think otherwise are breathtakingly naïve. I hope some of them are paying attention to this blog.
ReplyDeleteAs a priest of the Diocese of Boise, I admire and support my bishop, who has the right to establish certain postures in his diocese. St. Charles is a wonderful, welcoming parish. When it comes to the pious souls who insist on receiving Communion on their knees, I don't care. But they seem to feel so much holier than all those other souls around them. Saints, or exhibitionists? As for Communion on the tongue? Basically, it means that holier than thou soul is asking me to share his/her spit with the next folks in line. Especially egregious are the ones priests call "snappers," who close their mouths on the priest's fingers. Next time, I am going to take time before Communion to explain this less than sanitary little fact.
DeleteFellow member of diocese of Boise here 👋 thank you for this! The pastor (I’m pretty sure I know who it is - we’re not a very big diocese) it has happened to my friends as well at the neighboring parish in Sun Valley. Also - what are your thoughts praying the St Michael prayer after Mass? Bishop Christiansen has just told all the priests in the diocese that we cannot pray this as a congregation anymore (I’m assuming with our priest leading the prayer?).
ReplyDeleteNo wonder the attendance is declining at Mass. This is the sort of thing that is being focused on? Everything has to be written in stone, doesn't it? There's religion and there's faith. Never the twain shall meet.
ReplyDelete